tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25877305.post114724729659915406..comments2023-08-07T17:17:24.610+05:30Comments on Smorgasbord: Statements of FaithAshishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09019016808975565123noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25877305.post-1149076308615685252006-05-31T17:21:00.000+05:302006-05-31T17:21:00.000+05:30Some are definitely in and some our definitely out...Some are definitely in and some our definitely out. But the final sifting between the goats and the sheep will be done by the Shepherd Himself. <BR/><BR/>Meanwhile if a term such as Hindu Christian does not help anyone, than one can ask do singular labels like "Hindu," "Christian" do any better? Do they express human solidarity and validate individual experiences for an inabitant of 21st century global village?<BR/><BR/>Now one agrees that the issue is, for most part, lingustic. And people are trying to fashion a vocabulary to express their encounters with new forms of identity, which i think is case with Upadhyaya. <BR/><BR/>Credal statements are part of that quest and hence not final. <BR/><BR/>By the way has someone done some sort of a comparative study of various statements of faith?Ashishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09019016808975565123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25877305.post-1149051544146861162006-05-31T10:29:00.000+05:302006-05-31T10:29:00.000+05:30Lets not be afraid of exclusivism, the orthodox ch...Lets not be afraid of exclusivism, the orthodox christian faith accepts that some are in and some are out. The term Hindu christian (ala Karl Rahner) or Hindu Catholic (Upadhyaya)helps no one neither the Hindu nor the Christian. <BR/><BR/>There is no doubt a "wideness in God's mercy" (Clark Pinnock)but that wideness is open to debate and for that we need words. The vehicle of debate is imperfect ie language, and are ability to define or know truth is limited but credal statements go some way towards expressing belief and contributing to that debate.<BR/><BR/>If we accept the limitations of ourselves,language and the credal statement then at least we have a vehicle for working towards the quest of defining our faith. <BR/><BR/>A process of course in which we are presently engaged via this blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25877305.post-1147966113797226332006-05-18T20:58:00.000+05:302006-05-18T20:58:00.000+05:30Hey Charles,I would to study the book Exclusion a...Hey Charles,<BR/>I would to study the book <B> Exclusion and Embrace</B> by Miroslav Volf with you and discover what he says about it. <BR/>:-) <BR/>Meanwhile, as far as the standard is concerened ... hummm ... I can't seem to think about it instantly. I faced a peculiar problem sometime back. I had once almost dismissed the creeds (Nicene, Apostles')as Western constructs. But later i did realize that these creeds are important as we Indians encounter the cults such as Jehova's witness. So formalised verbal expressions of faith are necessary. However, one thing is pretty sure that statements of Faith of various denominations reflect their particular doctrinal preferences, hence they need to be looked at with an inquiring glance.<BR/><BR/>Historical creeds are the farthest I would go at the moment. (This betrays my CNI background ... hahaha )Ashishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09019016808975565123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25877305.post-1147723450806396182006-05-16T01:34:00.000+05:302006-05-16T01:34:00.000+05:30To exclude a person on the basis of a particular c...To exclude a person on the basis of a particular characteristic of that person (gender, race, caste, creed) goes against the very grace of God himself. We need to practise an inclusion as broad as God's creation.<BR/><BR/>Does that mean we compromise on truth? I think that to consider creedal assent as a means of safeguarding truth reveals a certain unfortunate naivete regarding how human communities work. While the intent may be to protect truth, the effect is always to exclude persons. Therefore creedal assent works to protect socio-religious boundaries - it has no power to protect truth. <BR/><BR/>A creedal statement should not be used as a social contract. Some other more effective means must be found to determine the distinction between the wideness of God's Grace, and the unfortunately limited numbers that respond positively to that grace and populate human communities of faith.J V Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15813577718159109509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25877305.post-1147274786481942742006-05-10T20:56:00.000+05:302006-05-10T20:56:00.000+05:30Faith finds a foothold, for here plurality becomes...Faith finds a foothold, for here plurality becomes solidarity. And that clinches centuries' debacle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com